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“Thursday, June 25, 2009

The Leak
The Satanic Satanist album leak
I am not going to start into this with my (now yearly) standard of proclaiming my support for downloading. I have done it too many times and it has typically become simply the preface to the message. The message that seems to get lost by the point the reader reaches the end of the sentence “We fully support downloading…”. There is more. If you are interested in the point of this piece then please read on. I know it is scary to read through something that will begin with “This is in no way an attack on you, the downloader” but, that is just how it starts…
Remember When?
This is in no way an attack on you, the downloader, but it is a note that I have taken and I wish to share. I realized something in the past few weeks. It took the festivals Bonnaroo and Hurricane and Southside to come to the point of this writing that begins at the point. I realized something about myself and my friends in this band as we looked through the lists of bands playing these festivals. I know relatively all the names of all the artists on the bill. I literally have or have had ALL of them on my ipod. Every “buzz” or “hype” band and most of them I don’t even remember how I got them but, somehow, I have them. One thing I can’t tell you about them is what album “that one song is on” or even for that matter the title of “that one song”. Honestly I can’t tell you if they even play “that one song”. Well, there were a handful of these artists that I do know, which I will list here: The Beastie Boys, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, The Pixies, and Faith No More… I will also include in here Moby for simple fact that I walked past his stage multiple times and each time I thought to myself “Oh hey, I know this!” I mention these bands (and will mention a few more current) because they are bands whose albums I owned, albums I waited for and albums I WORE OUT. Really, played them to extinction. They are groups that I was a part of. Do you remember the anticipation building as release date neared? Do you remember tearing open the package and putting that album on? Do you remember the fact that that album did not leave the stereo, the car, the walkman, the discman etc… until you had listened through from start to finish (often multiple times). Do you remember showing up at your record store late for the initial rush and finding that your album was sold out!? (maybe only in Alaska) Do you also remember checking in daily on the hope that a truck had been delayed in the days before and somehow your record would arrive randomly throughout the following days, completely bypassing the system of release and shipments? I do. I remember these bands. I remember being a part of something bigger. I remember how these things felt. I did it for bands I didn’t know, bands who I had not heard before but only read an advance review of. And sometimes, sometimes it was completely random, just for the sake of getting new music. As I watched Jason run out into the dark, the cold and the pouring rain towards the Faith No More set happening two stages away I thought about this. What is drawing him out into this mess? The only answer I could find was “The Album”. It was the memories that came along with the album. It was the endless plays it got throughout his high school years. It was the work that went into the purchase of this album. He was a part of this and despite all of us wanting to get out of the rain and start our 4 hour drive we could not deny him this. We all knew how he felt and we all knew that there was no stopping it. Where else would he get a chance to see this with our tour schedule and lack of stability that a home and a job holds. We would not stop him and we would deal with the end of festival traffic and the cold and wet would eventually dry away. There is a reason bands like Blur and Faith No More and Moby are playing to the massive audiences they are and the bands of now are playing to half interested crowds of people who know they are supposed to be here but aren’t quite sure why they are here and they kinda know some of the words to some of the songs and who shortly need to move on to the next show that they hear they are supposed to be into. I watched this and felt a teensy bit sad inside.
Downloading.
I hope this is not a tough read and I apologize if it is but there is a message to all of it… My favorite bands today are album bands. Bands whose records, had I downloaded prior or not, I purchased. The albums that became a part of me through my becoming a part of the album. Bands like Grizzly Bear, Santi(o)gold, Lykke Li, The Knife, Fever Ray, Menomena, The Builders and the Butchers and so on and so on (sorry if I forgot some good ones but I am in the middle of finishing a thought that even this little side note is interrupting these are great bands though. Please buy these albums!)… Here is something to think about. Grizzly Bear just put out a new record with the backing of A Radiohead tour a Feist Tour, a TV On The Radio tour, all the buzz and hype you could throw at one group without it’s implosion resulting, and more TV performances than I have ever seen one band take on (and own! Good work guys!). Number 8 on the charts and 33k sold. Imagine what that could have been had we all lived up to the release date and the saving? If we had all been a part of it. It should have been number 1, or at least top 5. You would have Grizzly Bear, a band who we played with at the birth of our band, a band that has been working towards this goal and taking all the right steps, at the top of every radio playlist. You would be opening up the door to relevant new music. You would be pumping new life into something you believe in. Music. In doing this we would all be a part of it. We would be a part of a movement. The times of the “evil” music Industry are over and the people behind it are all hiding out, losing their hold. You are no longer keeping money from their hands but of the artists behind your favorite songs and albums. The Labels no longer have the power of weighted deals, they bend in our favor now, or better yet (in our place) completely fair. Less people buying records equals less money behind promotion, equals less money behind its release, equals less money behind the tour, equals less opportunities to see your favorite bands. This is coming as a music fan mind you. I am not begging not pleading, simply stating the facts. It is hard for bands like us to do this without help. That is why it is so important to buy music. It doesn’t matter how you get it, from the label, from us on tour, from Amazon, or Itunes. We have put a lot of work into this and want to share it with you. Lets be a part of something again. Example: Our manager just went to the Wilco show last night on a free ticket handed to him by a friend. He and his wife bought seventy dollars in merchandise from their favorite… favorite? God I am so jealous right now…. band. It all comes around. I always need to be fair as I find the end of these points and state this: I download music early. It is a great advance to the purchase. It is an early taste. It is an amazing treat for the fan. BUT. If you like these albums and these bands please buy the record. It means so much more…. AND if we or any other band makes the mistake of making a record that you absolutely hate. Well, don’t buy it. Don’t waste your money…. ANNNNNNNNNND that being said. My favorite albums have been growers. Just have a bit of patience with all of us artists. Its not always the easy listen right away.
The Band.
This is not meant to be depressing (wow, another killer way to start a paragraph) but there are some things you need to know about this band. This I am sure is not only relatable to ours but to other over your favorite bands as well. This is relevant to anyone who does what they love. This is for your understanding in what that local corner store, local shops, local construction builders… Here is a quick nod from my childhood. We built hotels throughout Alaska for a major tourism company. When we would go into small towns they would try to push young foreign and out of state labor into the building to save money and my dad fought every bit of it to spend local and hire local while he was working. He understood what he went through in starting his business and he understood what community is about. This is a community as is the tupperware group your mom goes to. As is the sandwich shop that we eat at between work. I am only writing this so you can understand the amount of work that goes into living for your love. Those of you with parents who run their own business and those of you who have their own will understand that I speak for you as well. It is something that gets lost and I feel it is time that you know these things. It is not about money but about what we do for what we love. If we all just worked together and pitched in a little bit then we could do something bigger than all this.
I sleep on a hard wood floor in the house of people I did not know before Ryan’s joining of this band. I sleep on this floor with Ryan and Ian, our tour manager. Our tour manager sleeps on this floor with us because he will not let us pay him when we cannot pay ourselves. Jason sleeps in the basement of The Builders and The Butchers for random rent payments while he is home and Zach stays in the guest room at his ex-girlfriends and her new boyfriends place for 75 dollars a month. Our manager has worked endless hours for the past four years with little to no payment. Really, we call him on weekends. He is working right now and was working until late last night, I know… I talked to him. Austin Sellers www.austinmadethis.com is in my opinion one of the best artists in Portland and has done posters from Berbatis to The Doug Fir to Holocene and AMAZING ones at that. He and I have spent countless hours together and apart on this album artwork present and past for little to no pay. Ryan Rothermal www.decoy.tv and Mike Ragen www.mikeragen.com and Robbie Johnston www.robbiejohnston.com worked for two days straight on our music video not to mention days of post work and editing and went out of their own pocket to make a music video that we could all be happy with as artists… OK, this is getting overly “artsy” but it is the only word I gots without sounding like a douche. Nothing worse than a douchey artist.. We play music because we love it and nothing will change that ever. We tour because we love it and not because of money. If I wanted money I would have stayed in Alaska and worked construction rather than starve for this. Rather than fight through three dollar meals and countless nights sleeping in the van. The point we are at now is so far from where we have come and yet still so far from a standard of living. Remember that “homeless” story from “Waiter: You Vultures”. An odd choice of talking points. All of us do it. All of us who believe in it. All of us are still living it.
The Leak.
I had mixed feelings when I hear the album had leaked. On one hand it was exciting to think that people were actually searching so hard in advance (We have never had an album leak more than two weeks in advance of release date). On the other hand I was somewhat frustrated, not in an angry way. Just looking back at our history of touring and shows gradually getting bigger and bigger but still watching sales drop from our low thousands to the lower thousands. It was more frustrating to hear how it leaked seeing as how all the links we had sent out were private and coded. There is a certain level of professionalism that has been lost along with the idea that is the album. To hear about these things happening from the people that should understand music as much as any musician is just heartbreaking. I am happy vinyl is coming back, it needs to. We need to have albums and music. I need to.
We love being a part of this. We need to believe in something again. Thank you for everything
Love
John”

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posted by thomas on June 25th, 2009| categories: rants |

26 Comments

  1. Posted June 25, 2009 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    I completely agree with the whole “buy the album” that he mentions, especially for those bands, artists, etc., that you love. I’ve promised myself to do that from now on.
    Also I wanted to mention that the other day I was at Barnes and Nobel and I had time to kill so I wandered into the music section. I browsed for like an hour. It was like what Penny Lane says in Almost Famous: “When you get lonely you just go to the record store and visit your friends.” Idk there is just something special about holding an album in your hand.

  2. k.
    Posted June 25, 2009 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    This is perfect. John is wonderful!
    I’m one of the few people I know that still loves to buy physical albums. Yes, I download here and there, but usually to sample music- see if I like it before spending money on it. But I still love the excitement of purchasing new albums, putting them in my stereo and just getting into the groove of THAT ALBUM. I love the artwork, notes/thank yous/lyrics, everything about a physical album. And I could never imagine NOT spending money on my favourite bands. I bought Razia’s online (which I hardly ever do), just to have the physical copy.
    I like what downloading does for getting music out to more people, but it really has changed the entire music experience.

  3. Posted June 25, 2009 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Great “rant”. I must admit, I downloaded the leak of Razia’s Shadow. Having said that, I fell in such love with it that I have since bought a copy on itunes, bought the instrumental copy on fbr’s website, and attended the tour when it stopped in Buffalo. I do download early, simply because there are a few bands who I’m so excited to hear that I don’t want to wait until release day. I always end up buying digital copies of these though. In the case of Razia’s Shadow, for example, I can’t imagine that taking less than 3 years to create, and I (to an extent) realize the magnitude of the work that was involved. This is your profession, and like other bands that I love, I want to experience more of your wonderful creations, so I always have and will continue to do my part in supporting the arts that I thoroughly enjoy. And on a side note, if I worked for years on something, I would be ROYALLY pissed if somebody just downloaded the leak and listened to it once or twice passingly. Artists are owed more respect than that, for sure.

  4. molly
    Posted June 25, 2009 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been an avid album buyer for as long as I can remember. I’ve, up until recently, refused to download albums.

    There’s something in the process of buying an album, spending your cold hard cash, on something you love. I don’t know what it is, but I know it’s always been worth it. I know when I bought Wonderland it was worth it. I know when I ran to Best Buy because I LOST my copy of Wonderland, it was worth it. I know how antsy I am to go pick up Act III by The Dear Hunter. I missed the release date (and I’m really ashamed in myself for doing so.) and I’m seriously hoping Best Buy saved me a copy. I don’t know how long it’ll take me to rip open that CD, but I know it’ll be less than 10 minutes. I’ve heard so much good stuff about it, seeing all of my friends have failed to wait and downloaded it already. ARG. I’m already two days late, and let me tell you, it’s driving me crazy.

    I can relate to John about buying out of good word, too. That’s how I even came across his music. Hot Topics in Houston lack a lot to be excited about, so in frustration, I decided why the hell not, picked up his cd, and paid 12.99 since it was a new release.

    I got Razia’s through this online mag I wrote for, but I still bought it once it came out. I remember how stoked I was to play it in the car, and sing along to parts I already knew. I remember how much I flipped out when I realized how many GREAT underappreciated artists you had on there. (I mean shit, Kris Anaya? I basically peed my pants when I saw that shit. And Nic Newsham. And John Gourley (WITH KRIS. ON THE SAME SONG. YOU’RE SO FUCKING GENIUS). And Lizzie Huffman. And…I’m stopping, now.)I remember how happy I was with what I had rated it (if I remember correctly, I gave it a 5 / 5) and how much I’d left out in the initial review. Nonetheless, I continued to listen and love it.

    I know how frustrated I get when I see people who’ve only downloaded the songs off of Razia with their beloved artists in it, other than the whole album. I know how frustrated I get when I go to your concert and there’s, maybe, 50 people there. You worked so hard on that album, and it’s frustrating not getting to see you rise to the top. I wish I could do something to boost you up there with your label mates like Fall Out Boy and Panic.

    I also know, though, that the half hearted fans would rush in, like John was saying. That would kill me, like it kills a lot of my friends who have been with Fall Out Boy since their beginning. When there were four members known and loved in Fall Out Boy, not just one.

    I’ll never forget the day when I saw your little one page spread in AP. I can’t explain how excited I was, even if it was ONLY one page. I almost had a heart attack when I saw Kay Kay was on the other side, too. I can’t explain how fucking stoked I was to see that I’d gotten some recognition for you printed in AP, too. I know no one reads the little Letter to Editor things, but maybe someone did. And maybe someone said ‘Hey, this girl is legit about this guy, I think I’ll go listen and see what the fuck she’s talking about.’ Maybe not, but I can hope. I know I felt very liberated to know that I’d been printed standing up for my favorite band. (Not to mention I got your little picture printed, too. That should mean something, right? Like letter with most heart. Maybe someone would stop because they saw some hot guy on the page, and then go look you up. Who knows.) Even if I didn’t shout it across the world, I did something about it. I acted on my frustration, and I won…kind of.

    Anyways, this is way too long, and I’m just ranting by now. I really hope both you and John have GREAT careers ahead of you guys. You deserve them. :)

    Now I get to see how long this is, and feel awful for taking up all of the space in your comments. WOO.

  5. Sam
    Posted June 26, 2009 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    I read this on their site yesterday, and I really sympathize with what he’s saying. And on that note, I am in love with The Satanic Satanist leak, and fully intend to buy a hard copy when it drops.

  6. Posted June 26, 2009 at 12:55 am | Permalink

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  7. Elaine
    Posted June 26, 2009 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    I wrote a paper on musicians for class before school got out for careers. I had never really thought about how dedicated you have to be until I sat down and wrote that paper. How much you really have to love what you’re doing to get by and be happy no matter how much you make. I think thats the most amazing thing ever. How much of a person you have to be to go through with it, and what kind of a person you are. That’s what kind of life I want when I’m on my own. I love buying albums over downloading them. It’s like you can prove that you listened to this artist however long ago it was. I remember I looked everywhere for Razia’s Shadow when it came out. I spent at least a week looking for it. When I found it I was so excited to finally have it. It’s like a giant accomplishment. And last month when you were here I was even more excited, and like molly said, I was so upset to see barely anyone there. I mean sure it was a small venue anyway but I thought that there should have been so many more people there. Anyway, this has totally confirmed everything I admired about mucisians, and I’m really glad I wasn’t wrong.

  8. Posted June 27, 2009 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    yeah, we all love that guy… he’s quite the clever one

  9. Tom
    Posted June 28, 2009 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been buying the albums by bands I like for a while. I’m going to get Wonderland eventually…

  10. cheyenne
    Posted June 28, 2009 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    john is the bee’s knees

  11. Rabbit O'hare
    Posted July 1, 2009 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    I’ll admit, thomas, I downloaded Razia’s Shadow a week or so before release (it escaped the streaming you had going on this blog) but the day it released, i went to a store and said “Where’s Razia’s Shadow?” and they had lost within their store the ONE copy they had ordered. i came back the next day and bought it after they found it. After reading this, I totally know what he means about that connection. I’m forever fond of Razia’s, probably from that pilgrimage of sorts i had to get a hold of it, and it’s probably 2nd most played album i have of all the music i have, despite it’s 9 month existance. So, thank you.

  12. Posted July 4, 2009 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    i am not a recording artist. however, i will say that i completely agree with all of the above. i am very-anti piracy. i still buy CDs and know that excited feeling of opening up a new album and listening thorugh it all.
    i saw you guys back in May in Austin and it broke my hear to see very little people at the show. I sincerely hope that you guys dont get disencouraged and come back again!!
    <33

  13. Troy
    Posted July 8, 2009 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    I’m working on a CD right now independently with just my instruments, an editing program, and a video camera mainly just to send out copies as demos to spread around our sound. Since I started this, a couple hundred dollars have come out of my pocket, but I don’t care as long as I finish. About two years ago I made sure that I was buying either physical copies or off of iTunes and to sample the CD before buying, I’d just use Myspace or Youtube.
    For Forgive Durden it was totally different. I saw You on FBR and was kinda intrigued so I checked out Razia’s on iTunes and saw a ton of great vocalists made appearances. So by only hearing 30-second previews I decided that I’d take a chance and buy the Deluxe CD. Forgive Durden is now one of my favorite bands out there today.

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